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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 24 Mar 2012 17:29 #78119

Well hopefully the machine repair guy will be able to fix it for you and maybe give you a few pointers to get you going and keep you going. I feel your frustration because I was there too with my first machine and many subsequent machines. It takes time to get to know everything and to get them all in the right order. You'll get there don't worry. Stay positive. :D
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 24 Mar 2012 14:01 #78113

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Some machines don't need to be oiled by us--only the guy cleaning and doing maintenance. My machine doesn't need to be oiled. My friend's does. Check with the man who does the work. He should know. Definitely, do not use the compressed air. The bobbin not having even tension from winding could be a problem. I would ask about that also.

thanks, I'll ask for sure. My dad had pointed out a place he thought was where to put the oil, but it doesn't open (it's the little bit where you loop the thread around if winding the bobbin up top) so I really don't know if it needs it or not. As I don't have any oil anyway, this is not a problem. ;)

I did fix the bobbin winding and got it wound correctly/tight enough, still breaking. IN paying attention, it seems to sometimes break at the needle, and sometimes at the thread uptake lever thing. This is even with the top tension down at 1.5, so off to the sewing machine repair guy I will go, most likely Monday but maybe today. I'm officially giving up on trying to solve this one on my own and will just hand sew until it gets fixed. I can do that, but had sewn just enough with the machine to be really excited about how much faster I can go with it. :(

Ah, well, soon.
Heather, a Texan living in Brasil

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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 24 Mar 2012 13:29 #78112

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Some machines don't need to be oiled by us--only the guy cleaning and doing maintenance. My machine doesn't need to be oiled. My friend's does. Check with the man who does the work. He should know. Definitely, do not use the compressed air. The bobbin not having even tension from winding could be a problem. I would ask about that also.
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 24 Mar 2012 08:11 #78105

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Heather, These challenges I speak of don't come without frustration. Another idea is to look in the manuel for maintenance and cleaning. With older machines it was expected that the sewer would oil and clean the machine regularly. I remember back in 4-H learning to clean, oil and lubricate my machine after each project. I worked in a sewing factory one summer in college and we did the same at the end of each day. I would imagine you could find a complete manual online if you don't already have one for your machine. Go through the complete cleaning and maintenance process they suggest. I used the same wonderful machine from the early 1960's to the early 90's. Now that machine is at my daughter's and I use it to sew for her and her home everytime I visit. The newer machines I purchased since the early 90's only expected me to remove the dust and lint. (However, my new Janome dealer told me that her technican told her to give the little felt wick under the bobbin case a tiny drop of oil after each cleaning.) If you have an older machine and it is not cleaned, oiled and lubricated properly, that in itself, can throw the timing off. Even if you get this machine operating if it hasn't had professioasl maintenance and cleaning for a while it should have it. You'll notice a difference in operation and it will protect your investment. I agree about the canned air spray! Don't use it. Lois

thanks very much Lois! I definitely feel that by figuring all of these things out I am sure to understand my machine so much better in the long run.

I'll be taking it in for a thorough cleaning, etc. and buy the oil and all then. I'm sure it is in desperate need of this TLC and I do plan to take good care of it; I know just enough to know that this machine will last my lifetime if I care for it properly.

Thanks for the encouragement; I so appreciate it.
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 24 Mar 2012 07:06 #78103

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Heather, These challenges I speak of don't come without frustration. Another idea is to look in the manuel for maintenance and cleaning. With older machines it was expected that the sewer would oil and clean the machine regularly. I remember back in 4-H learning to clean, oil and lubricate my machine after each project. I worked in a sewing factory one summer in college and we did the same at the end of each day. I would imagine you could find a complete manual online if you don't already have one for your machine. Go through the complete cleaning and maintenance process they suggest. I used the same wonderful machine from the early 1960's to the early 90's. Now that machine is at my daughter's and I use it to sew for her and her home everytime I visit. The newer machines I purchased since the early 90's only expected me to remove the dust and lint. (However, my new Janome dealer told me that her technican told her to give the little felt wick under the bobbin case a tiny drop of oil after each cleaning.) If you have an older machine and it is not cleaned, oiled and lubricated properly, that in itself, can throw the timing off. Even if you get this machine operating if it hasn't had professioasl maintenance and cleaning for a while it should have it. You'll notice a difference in operation and it will protect your investment. I agree about the canned air spray! Don't use it. Lois
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 24 Mar 2012 05:47 #78101

Lorchen wrote:
I wonder how this sewing machine guy would feel if he would know that there are thousands of quilters worldwide waiting for him to sort out your 'new' baby?! :)

It might not be until Monday, but I'll keep you guys posted!

One thought someone in another forum had was that the bobbin might not have been wound tightly enough, so I'm going to work on that and we'll see what happens. It was sort of...smooshy...in places, for lack of a better word. Hopefully that gets it going for now, but I'll still schedule a tune-up!
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 19:43 #78095

Lorchen wrote:
I wonder how this sewing machine guy would feel if he would know that there are thousands of quilters worldwide waiting for him to sort out your 'new' baby?! :)

:lol: :lol:
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 19:29 #78093

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I wonder how this sewing machine guy would feel if he would know that there are thousands of quilters worldwide waiting for him to sort out your 'new' baby?! :)
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 19:12 #78089

Okay, my machine is one of the mechanical ones, not computerized, so I'll be fine taking it to this guy. I think it will be okay, and really, it can't get much worse! : )

I won't use the air, since you say no. I think I can get a pipe cleaner, but if not, a paint brush I know I have.

Thanks!
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 19:00 #78086

Heather, try the tension at 1 1/2 and see if that helps. Also, if your machine is mechanical rather than computerized then it should not be a problem to take it to a sewing machine engineer (or whatever they are called.) Yes, the take up lever is the part that goes up and down with the thread around it. Maybe in your manual it calls it something different? Don't use the compressed air can thingy. They will just blow lint and fluff into the machine. The pipe cleaner is the best. ( I buy the big coloured ones that they sell for kids to make shapes out of. If you don't have one then is there a little lint brush that came with the machine? If not a paint brush or a cotton bud will do.
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 18:53 #78085

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If you think you can trust that sewing machine technician, then let him have a go! For years I have taken my machines (a Singer, a Frister & Rossman, and a Husqvarna) to the local Husqvarna dealer, because the technician is brilliant, whatever make the machine. It's different with my new Bernina. It'll go to the Bernina dealer as long as it's under warrenty. After that I'll think about it carefully. It may end up with the 'Man from Husqvarna', depending on how how feel about the 'Bernina Bloke'. :)

Good luck! The problems with your machine may be something that any decent sewing machine technicean can sort out. My 'Man from Husqvarna' once told me that all sewing machines are similar, except when it comes to some of the high-end computerized machines where special diagnostic software is needed that only a dealer of the right make has got access to.
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 18:40 #78083

Thanks, Rita. I've tried 2 different threads (I was first using a Star brand thread, not sure the exact one) and then switched to the Superior Masterpiece.

I will try a 75/11; I'm using right now an 80/12.

I have put the tension down to between 2 and 3 on top, still breaking, but I'll try going all the way to 0 and just see what happens.

I will see if I can find some pipe cleaners and clean all the bits I can reach. I saw on-line (on Threads Magazine website) that I can use good compressed air, like those cans for cleaning computer keyboards -- would the rest of you agree with that? I have some of that I can use.

Also --- how bad would it be to take it to a sewing machine repair/vendor place that is not authorized Bernina? He says he can work on them anyway; since this is an older machine bought in an auction there's no issue of warranty to void or anything. Would that be okay if I can't get this sorted, or is that a huge No-No for some reason other than voiding the warranty?

(and, by take-up lever....you mean the part that rises & lowers with the needle; not the needle itself or that assembly, but the part up top where I put the thread that also comes up & down with the needle? where the tension adjusts? Or is take-up lever something else??? See, I really am *that* clueless.....)
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 17:49 #78079

Heather, Try your machine with a different thread and see if it works okay. If not, you could try cleaning out all the areas you can get to on your machine with a pipe-cleaner - including the take-up lever if you can get at it. Then I would try again reducing my tension further. If that doesn't work then try a different needle. I know that Superior have a recommended needle size for each of their threads but I found that my machine worked better on a different needle. If you have one try a 75/11. Good luck and I hope you get it sorted soon. It is so frustrating when this happens, I know.
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Re: so, a new question -- thread breaking?? why?? 23 Mar 2012 17:31 #78076

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Good luck. I admire your determination. If you decide that every obstacle is just a piece of a puzzle that you will solve the whole process becomes a challange. If it weren't a challenge it wouldn't be interesting. At least that is the way it is for me. Lois
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