I first saw Kim on qnntv.com. I used her technique with my DS#1, 10yo. He wanted to make gifts for his grandmothers, all five of them! (blended family) So I demonstrated, supervised and took him shopping for the pillow forms. He did very well, when I get my camera working I put a picture up of the pillow he made for himself. I was very proud of him. He stayed motivated for the whole project.