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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 15 Apr 2017 17:21 #140745

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Renata

That is interesting read. I was not familiar with the #96 foot

However I have friends with the Q series and one loaned me their #72 because mine was on backorder

They told me their Q series machines taken all the standard accessories. Even use the same Needles

So it was a very interesting. Going to have to ask about this as I do not understand the foot that would damage a machine. So very unlike Bernina.

Hi Nusiax (J-R?),
Your friends are exactly correct about the #72: the Q series machines do take standard feet that belong to the domestic machines as well as needles. However, the converse is not true. In other words, the #96 presser foot was never designed for domestic machines. It came out exclusively as an accessory for the Q series machines. The #72 was subsequently created in response to the fact that #96 foot could not work on the domestic machine without some serious potential problems. Since the #72 is designed for domestic machines and the Q series machines take all the standard accessories, it stands to reason that the #72 foot works on the Q series machines.

There was a lot of discussion on the Forum about this topic for a long time, but I just did a search and it looks like all those discussions disappeared when the website crashed several weeks ago. I hope that your friends can explain in greater detail why the #96 foot for the Q Series machines would damage a domestic machine, which in turn, resulted in the creation of the #72 for domestic machines. Bernina, by the way, has a very good e-book about ruler work. You can find it at www.bernina.com/en-US/Experience-en-US/Quilting/Quilting-ebooks/Just-Quilt-It-Ruler-Work-For-Quilters/Just-Quilt-It-Ruler-Work-Basics.pdf. Hope this helps.

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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 15 Apr 2017 16:44 #140744

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Renata

That is interesting read. I was not familiar with the #96 foot

However I have friends with the Q series and one loaned me their #72 because mine was on backorder

They told me their Q series machines taken all the standard accessories. Even use the same Needles

So it was a very interesting. Going to have to ask about this as I do not understand the foot that would damage a machine. So very unlike Bernina.
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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 15 Apr 2017 16:14 #140743

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Agree with both Karen and Wendy about the advantages of the Bernina presser foot #72. In addition to the comments I previously made about the marks on the #72 that make ruler work even easier, I have to say that it also eases any concerns about the damage to the needle bar (an issue for the Westalee foot as well as the #96 foot that was designed specifically for the Q20 and Q24). My understanding of the repair issue is that, if damage were caused by the Westalee or #96 foot, Bernina would not service the damage under the warranty because those presser feet had recognized issues and Bernina warned against their use. Of course, if you never have a bad day and always lower your presser foot and then your needle, you won't have damage, but I was not willing to take that chance even though I was fortunate to win a Westalee presser foot a year before the #72 came out. I tried it a few times, but knowing myself, it was like playing Russian roulette, the day would come when inadvertently I would do the wrong thing, resulting in damage that would not be covered by Bernina, so I waited until the #72 foot came out.

As for the #72 being designed for the Q20/Q24, it was not. It was designed specifically for the domestic Bernina machines. When Janome came out with the ruler foot for domestic machines, many of us were hoping Bernina would do the same. I've just searched my records, and I had sent an email to Bernina USA back in 2013, asking them to consider a ruler foot for the domestic machine. The person who responded agreed to forward my request to the factory at that time and I received confirmation shortly afterwards that it had been sent. Westalee also came out with their ruler foot, I'm sure lots of Bernina lovers deluged Bernina with requests for a domestic machine ruler foot, I probably was not the only one. When the Q20/Q24 came out, it had the #96 ruler work foot available as an accessory for the Q20/Q24. Since those machines are designed to accept many other Bernina feet, it was widely assumed that if the darning foot from the domestic machine could be used on the Bernina longarm machine, then why couldn't the #96 foot be used on a domestic machine? It could not because the chances of hitting the needle bar if the presser foot was not lowered first when starting the machine was too great, so Bernina could not sanction its use without liability, hence the warning that if damage resulted from using the #96 or any other ruler foot not designed for the Bernina, resulting damage would not be covered under warranty. At the beginning of 2016, there still was no official release date for the domestic ruler foot, but it was widely known that it had been in testing. At Bernina University 2016, in New Orleans, the #72 foot for the domestic machine made its debut and the rest is history. Many of us are very happy owners of the #72 ruler foot for the domestic machine.

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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 15 Apr 2017 14:25 #140739

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I took a class from a Bernina ambassador last week and she explained the risk of using a non-Bernina ruler foot very clearly. It is possible to seriously damage your machine if you lower the needle before you lower your presser foot (this is done using the buttons on the Bernina). I hope I am recalling correctly what she said but here goes - she indicated that some Bernina service providers are refusing to repair the damage caused by the needle bar striking the presser foot. It is severe and expensive to repair. :ohmy:

I used a Westalee happily on my Bernina 820 for several months without making this mistake. I was aware that I needed to lower the presser foot FIRST but I was not aware of the severity of the potential damage. In fact, a Bernina dealer sold me the Westalee foot (with precautions).

So - I am passing along what I recall and apologize if my memory is faulty. I suggest checking it out before you decide on purchasing the Westalee. (I have not named the instructor since I am quoting her without her permission and without notes of her precise words!)

Aside from the damage risk, I do find the Bernina foot superior to the Westalee. I can place 1/4 inch long arm style rulers on the back side of the Bernina foot (could not on the Westalee because of the lack of clearance). Also, as Renata pointed out - the markers are superior on the Bernina foot. I do all my free motion without changing the foot. (The low shank Westalee is better used with thinner rulers - per their website - and this may limit choice of rulers. As an aside Westalee makes some dynamite rulers!)

Happy quilting - Wendy

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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 15 Apr 2017 09:31 #140737

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Just my two cents, but I think the Bernina Foot #72 is really MUCH better than the Westalee foot. The Bernina adjuster knob does not get in the way of the ruler--even if you position the ruler on the right side of the foot. The Bernina foot does not hop at all and it glides smoothly across your fabric--make sure to adjust the presser foot pressure in "settings" (I have mine set at 0.5 with a thin batting quilt sandwich).

I'm making this table runner to get practice with rulers:
www.bernina.com/en...Ruler-Work.../Just-Quilt-It-Ruler-Work-Basics.pdf
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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 15 Apr 2017 08:03 #140736

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I would not say improvement necessarily.

The Bernina#72 foot is a Bernina foot so no special shanks or adapters needed.

The beauty is this footwas made for the Bernina Q series (their long arms) but Bernina is a standard size and configuration over all their machines. So it fits perfectly in their new 700 series as well as their older series. It works greatin my 165e.

It is the Bernina way. That is what makes it so special.

Only other company i know that makes a standard ruler foot is Janome.

Hope this helps
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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 15 Apr 2017 06:13 #140733

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Why is foot #72 an improvement over the Westalee foot?

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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 02 Apr 2017 11:29 #140581

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I have the #72 foot for my small Bernina.

I have a couple small rulers on Long term loan from a friend she is a Long Armer and does not use the smaller rulers. Hence long term loan.

Have enjoyed the process.
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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 30 Mar 2017 20:52 #140511

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I just took a class at my LQS last week taught by Lisa Calle. First she is an awesome teacher. I purchased the foot and several of her rulers. For a first time try I thought it turned out quite nice. With practice (like anything) I'm sure I will improve but I really did like the results. I have a quilt ready for quilting and after some more practice I think I will try doing some with the rulers. I only have her rulers so can't vouch for any others.
Hi Lori, good to see you on the Forum again! I took a class from Lisa Calle a few years ago, before longarm rulers were being used with domestic machines... You're right, she IS an awesome teacher. Recently, I borrowed the ProLine rulers and they worked beautifully with my Bernina 830 and I have been going through Lisa's checklist of Quilter's Groove Rulers, watching videos and trying to get an idea of which ones would be useful to me. I like her rulers enough to invest in a fair number of them--I have not problem only owning her rulers--the ones I tried were great, with excellent markings. Which ones do you have? What was your thinking behind the ones you did purchase? Are you quilting on a domestic machine or a longarm? Any thoughts you can share on or offline would be appreciated.

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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 29 Mar 2017 13:05 #140500

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I just took a class at my LQS last week taught by Lisa Calle. First she is an awesome teacher. I purchased the foot and several of her rulers. For a first time try I thought it turned out quite nice. With practice (like anything) I'm sure I will improve but I really did like the results. I have a quilt ready for quilting and after some more practice I think I will try doing some with the rulers. I only have her rulers so can't vouch for any others.
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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 29 Mar 2017 11:37 #140497

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KarenVA wrote:
I have my foot and the Bernina rulers!! I practiced with them yesterday---oh my goodness, they are so much fun!! I bought an Amy Johnson Craftsy Class and I watched some Patsy Thompson videos. I love this!!!!
Thanks for the feedback. I love my #72 ruler foot and yes, rulers are fun--I found the transition to using rulers on a domestic machine very easy. Sound like you did too! :cheer:

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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 29 Mar 2017 09:46 #140493

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I have my foot and the Bernina rulers!! I practiced with them yesterday---oh my goodness, they are so much fun!! I bought an Amy Johnson Craftsy Class and I watched some Patsy Thompson videos. I love this!!!!
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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 04 Feb 2017 19:37 #139729

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I just ordered and paid in advance for my #72 foot!! I can hardly wait till it gets here!!!

The Mid-Atlantic quilt festival in Hampton, VA, will be Feb 23-26. I'm hoping I can get the rulers then!!
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Do you have foot 72 and the Bernina ruler set? 01 Feb 2017 05:40 #139624

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Good morning. I have had the #72 ruler foot and Bernina ruler set for about a month. The foot is fabulous - a real improvement over the Westalee foot. Earlier posts highlight the features of the foot that are superior. (Note that I had the Westalee rulers that came with the foot - the thinner plastic is not easy to work with and seems risky with the new foot.)

The Bernina ruler set is nice. I confess it was WAY pricey. I think it was over $200. I ordered it in a moment of gratitude when G Street fabrics wizards showed me how to solve several problems I was having with my 820. (Also, they charged me about $200 less than my previous shop for the annual service.)

It includes five items.
1. A straight edge ruler with a 45 degree angle on one end and a curved end (appropriate for clamshell work) The ruler is a good length to use with domestic machines. Quite stable and wide enough to get a grip but still keep one finger on the fabric for stability. In comparison to the other one I have (with two vertical pegs for gripping) - it is more versatile and just as easy to use.
2. A scalloped edge ruler - one inch scallops on one side and more open "spine" like curve on the other. I really like this ruler but it is longer than the straight edge and will take some practice.
3. A boot shaped one with two concave curves, one convex curve and a wave - quite versatile. (I believe there is a good Youtube video that shows the many things you can do with it.) It's a perfect size and easy to use.
4. A set of nesting circles - you stitch inside the circles. I love this set!
5. A set of nesting ovals (haven't tried yet).

The other ruler I really like is June by Gina Perkes. Lots of shapes on one disk!

I hope this helps you decide. The youtube videos are really helpful. Just search for Bernina ruler set.

Happy Quilting,
Wendy

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