Barbara, if your question is how to get the garble of thread out of your hook on the 830, towards the end of 2010, Bernina came out with a special accessory kit for the Bernina 8-Series machines. It was free of charge to anyone who had purchased a machine prior to that date (to be obtained from your dealer) and the accessories in this kit were part of the the package if you purchased a machine after that time. In any event, the kit contains, among other things, a hook cleaning tool. It's a flat, stainless steel contraption with a hook at the end of it (almost looks like the bottom part of an anchor). Its purpose is to slide into the bobbin case so that you can pull out any extraneous threads that might have gotten caught in the hook but are not visible to the eye. If you don't have it, the bar code number on my kit is 033595.70.00, perhaps your Bernina dealer can help you get one. If you have one, follow the instructions carefully, it's not difficult but requires knowing what you're doing. I looked for a video on line but could not find one. Nevertheless, hope this helps put you in the right direction.