is there same help for B580?

Renata...to the rescue !! Thanks so much ! I will get these downloaded and give them attention ! Let you
know how they go...I bookmarked your mention of this site the other day but had not looked at it yet. In all
my looking I'd missed her site ... :shock: Of course ! I' d love to have personal lessons from you...hope you can
make Idaho one day !

Marilyn, go to http://www.exnovodesign.com and look under the 830 section. The guide class video series is there and it is outstanding!!! Although on this website, Amanda Whitlatch has put it under the 830 embroidery section, this video covers both the 820 and the 830. Many of the features of these two machines are identical and the Bernina educator, Susan Fears, who put this series together will show both 820 and 830 screens to help you. The main differences between the two machines are that, one, obviously, you don't have the embroidery module (so you will skip the last three videos of the series) and the fact that the 830 allows you to do directional stitching with your decorative stitches, meaning that you can do decorative stitches beyond the 9 mm size of your throat plate because the fabric shifts when you go beyond 9 mms--the 820 cannot do that (so most, if not all of video number 5 would not be of interest to you. In summary, you should watch videos 1-4, you will get more than what most guide classes offer and you will be surprised at how much more efficient and happy you will be with your 820. If I ever make it out to Idaho to learn to quilt from you, I will definitely offer you a one-on-one super-duper guide class! But PLEASE go through this video series NOW, you will not regret it and let me know if I can help you in any way. There are also a series of exercises that reinforce what is taught in the video series and it is worth trying every single one of them.

Another bit of wisdom...be very sure you have a dealer who knows the machines...I did not and missed out
on those valuable lessons as she didn't and/or wasn't able to offer them. I could drive and pay a rather large fee to
take a series of classes now....if they have"room" ...well...can't see my way clear to drive 4 hrs for a 2 hr class x6 !
I really wish that Bernina offered something on-line like that...their other videos are so good !

I had the great privilege of taking my introductory classes on my 830LE directly with Renata . She warned us all about pulling the thread along with lots of other hints. I think that's why my Gibbs has stayed in such good running so far. Thanks to Renata and Mei Ling (my wonderful Bernina dealer).

Becky...everything that's been mentioned could be causing the problem...but let me tell you what I just found out....
Big Bernie just made a trip to the repairman. (I was cussin' about it all on another thread a few days back !) The major
issue was just what you explained as well as some others. Come to find out there is a "check spring" in the upper threading
area that can get out of place and cause this( and a host of other) problems ! If this is the case, it is an easy fix...ultimately
one you can do yourself once shown how. My face was red as the major cause ...supposedly.. is pulling the thread backwards
thru the machine! A NO-NO for sure...that I try not to do...tho many years of bad habit's hard to eliminate ....Mind you..there
is a big sticky note on my Bernie ! So, just anther bit of wisdom for us 8 series owners.

I'm still keeping my records and Renata's helps, and everyone's thoughts and encouragements on file as I'm not that sure
she's out of the woods. Will reserve letter-writing for now...and see how it goes. Tech was very helpful and didn't over do it.
Thanks all of you !!

thanks guys, i will update, cheers

Lotti I really like your thread delivery set up! I have avoided multiple spool additions in the past (mainly due to cost) however, I see definite possibilities!! There have been a lot of great ideas in regards to the sensors posted here. I have a feeling mine will just be a matter of "adjusting" mine. But for now, turning off the top thread sensor as well as the bottom one have completely solved my problem. I did have one issue where the thread really did break, but I was able to catch it and with the magic of the machine I could back up my position to cover where the thread really did break.

I burned up ALL my time off and then some this year by travelling back and forth taking care of my dad until he passed away, but I look forward to a fresh start in January when once again I will have some vacation time from work. I am going to invest at least 3-4 days of that time off by trying to take a class or two at my dealer. I am 100% self taught in the use of my machine as well as quilting and embroidery. Haven't done bad for myself, but oh my.....what I could learn!!!! So excited for that.

Here the pictures of my thread setup...




When you go to your dealer make sure you bring a selection of your threads ( especially the ones you generally have problems with ), and the corresponding bobbins, so that they can check your setup as well.

Good luck.

Becky, I have not read all the threads here to see what others have suggested so I apologize if someone else has said this already. The sensors related to the bobbin area are particularly sensitive. While you are waiting to go see your Bernina dealer for help, clean your bobbin area well. Sometimes, when there is lint in the bobbin area, unfortunately the sensor will tell you your bobbin is empty. I would still take it to your dealer to ensure it is not some other problem or perhaps the sensors need to be adjusted. But, you might find relief from the darned sensor going off if your bobbin area is clean. I wish I had seen this posting yesterday, I would have asked my dealer if there has been a trend with this problem and what the cause generally is. Unfortunately, today is her day off and so I can't call her. I am very curious as to what is turning your sensor active when the bobbin is still half full!

i tried what you suggested lotti, unfortunately my sewing machine little stubrn, and still make a fuss of false message thread is finished in the bobbin ....sad. but next week or 2 i have a meeting with my bernina dealer, i hope he can help, i will update you guys.

that is great solution, i buy as well from superior thread the cones and have sort of tall stick with hooks at the end to pass the thread in.
i will try it, thanks for letting me know.
cheers
b

Becky, I've had the same problem with my new 830

I use mainly cones from superior and we found that the thread doesn't unwind well when using the standard thread holder. I now have the large multi-thread adapter that sits on the back of the machine, with the higher telescopic thread guide...
I place my cones on that thread holder, pass the thread through the telescope guide, then through the Standard guide and no more problems.

The needle threader now also works with no problems, before it very rarely managed to thread the very fine threads - now the generally work fine.

I'll post a picture later to make my description less confusing.

i realized that if i stitch few stitches and stop and then continue again it doesnt show the message thread is broken. but if i do long stitch, then it appears. so i do sew with short intervals, annoying but that is the only way that i can troubleshoot it until bernina has a solution.